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主演:杰克·莱蒙,丽·莱米克,查尔斯·比克福德,杰克·克卢格曼

类型:电影地区:美国语言:英语年份:1962

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 长篇影评

 1 ) [Film Review] Days of Wine and Roses (1962) 8.1/10

Tackling alcoholism head on, DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES is an adaptation of J.P. Miller’s 1958 teleplay, and director Blake Edwards’ capacity of handling a simmering drama is put to test, and the result is quite propitious, unlike Billy Wilder’s excellent solitary toper misery in THE LOST WEEKEND (1945), here the situation is a classic case of folie à deux.

San Francisco PR agent Joe Clay (Lemmon) is a man of principles, yet he is often saddled with the seamy job of recruiting female companions for his company’s affluent clients. Under that premise, he first meets Kirsten Arnesen (Remick) and unceremoniously assumes that she belongs to the escort bracket, and only later to his discomfiture, realizes that she is a secretary, nonetheless doted by her affluent boss because of her prettiness.

Not so much a meet-cute as a romance precipitated by misapprehension, Edwards nimbly crafts an “elevator pitch” to sell a righteous Joe to a miffed Kirsten, who initially brushes aside his gesture of peace-making. To Joe’s obfuscated delight, after he lashes out on her for being too uppity to please and “secretary” is just a glorified designation for some gal with a pretty face , Kirsten takes an about-face and reconsiders the option of a date with him (talking about a girl’s illogical mutability), Joe’s “principles” finally convince Kirsten that he is the marry kind, they wed soon after and have a daughter, yet during their very first date, Joe has unwittingly sowed the seed of alcoholism to a hitherto teetotal Kirsten, which in time, will tear their family apart.

Every time before a snifter of hard liqueur goes down the hatch, Joe utters “magic time”, as if it is a mojo to invoke the liquor’s magical power to make him feel good, but that magical potion has severe sequelae, it destroys his career, put on a strain in his marriage and worst of all, indirectly pushes Kirsten down the same vicious circle of an inveterate heavy drinker, and she becomes an even worse case.

While the story tactfully soft-petals Joe’s incontrovertible responsibility as partially the scourge of Kirsten’s piteous self-abandonment (as Kirsten’s dour-looking father, Charles Bickford finally nerves himself up and gives Joe some piece of his own mind near the end, but that comes a shade too late), the script unavoidably smacks of sexism by granting Joe an ideal role model of an AA participant who finally gets the better of his jones, at the same time nudging Kirsten to the abyss of self-denial and diminishing willpower. This is the only gripe one can lay claim to the otherwise fairly outstanding script, probing strenuously and effectively to the nexus of the ubiquitous issue of alcohol dependency.

Beyond the shadow of a doubt, DoWaR boasts one of Lemmon’s most phenomenal performances, Lemmon wades through Joe’s journey with substantive lived-in commitment, running the gamut from gentlemanlike courtship, fanatical desperation to pathos-driven plead, not to mention the utterly visceral impersonation of delirium tremens when confined in a straitjacket, which can knock this reviewer dead stone cold. Remick, on the other hand, heftily retains her side of extraordinariness to limn Kirsten’s slippery slope with stern disillusion and inveterate helplessness, even though she is lumped with the short end of the stick in the dichotomous gender design. A cogent cautionary tale powered by two copacetic performers, and a slap on the Edwards’ back to his aptitude in orchestrating it in its finest order, not least for that bodacious final shot, a man and his anathema are superimposed in the same frame when a woman’s hope fizzles out despondently.

referential entries: Billy Wilder’s THE LOST WEEKEND (1945, 7.9/10)

 2 ) 边看边记

开头他俩如此不对付,让我非常好奇怎么成的夫妻。

女主看不上男主这很能理解,又抠门又拘谨不会说话。

结果男主电梯里把女主骂了一顿,女主觉得这人真是好单纯好不做作,和那些妖艳贱货的老头子好不一样。竟然还主动提出吃晚饭……

然后女主发现男主各种单纯不做作的闪光点,然后一个不注意他俩就结婚了。

这个女主开心的点总在我觉得比较尴尬的地方,比如全体大厦的租客因为他的杀虫剂嚷嚷起来的时候。

开始担心他俩的孩子浸淫在这对夫妻的酒精里会不会脑残……

男主脱衣舞跳的不错

女主老爸也是心酸,眼看着孩子被酒鬼坑了

他俩真的总有奇特的共同笑点

他俩的女儿真是长得贼快,除了头发看不出和他们有什么血缘的样子

这部片子重点应该是女主,看着她一步一步地被沦陷,到底是因为什么?爱?爱人?生活压力?欲望?她在旅馆里幽怨的样子真是太惨了。

男主还是软弱了些,拒绝妻子回家的那段话更像是自保,为了自己还能活下去,拒绝带上当初被自己拖下水的妻子

 短评

在海边酒杯掉进海里的时候结局已经注定 有趣的是同行的人解读最后Kiersten会回心转意我想的是她不会再活多久了……内嵌瑞典语字幕35mm胶片有些场景特别明显有审查标记 在Joe第一次被关进戒酒所 一个紫色大叉直接出现= = Kiersten独自在旅馆有一幕衣服松散耷拉着也出现几个叉 (60s瑞典电影审查与酒精的关系?censorship card没有办法电子检索不过可以找到编号100530 对有兴趣的人这部是个很好的材料)

3分钟前
  • Säger
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希望我只看了电影的前25分钟‘Days of Wine and Roses’-such a pretty name~

8分钟前
  • La Notte
  • 还行

杰克·莱蒙的表演真好,但这主题有些说教,和失去的周末差不多,都就酒精惹的祸。

9分钟前
  • 爱德华大夫
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It is said to be among the most classic films, which aroused my curiostiy to see from the beginning till the end. Expected to be soothing and comforting, or say, bore me to sleep. Typical drama film but failed to get me asleep.

13分钟前
  • 还行

For the past 21 years of my life I've been striving to stay out of the peripheral of alcoholism,the film is too harrowing to watch.When Jack Lemmon was searching for the bottle in the greenhouse,tears rolled down my cheek.

18分钟前
  • Nova
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杰克·莱蒙的表演会让你相信他此时此刻就是一个酒鬼。和妻子反反复复的酗酒,让家庭崩溃瓦解。

21分钟前
  • LoudCrazyHeart
  • 还行

这是我看过的最棒的酗酒题材影片,也是结局最为悲凉的,因为是夫妻二人一起饮酒。影片用大量笔墨讲述了二人结合的美好过程,使得随后双双堕入酒瘾陷阱更令人惋惜。影片还向我们展示了不同人对戒酒的态度,有人愿意接受戒酒无名会的帮助,但也有人羞于启齿而宁可依赖自我意志。两位演员的表演精彩绝伦。

24分钟前
  • 我就是我
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3.5,情节略拖沓,压缩到一个半小时的片长就够了,杰克莱蒙的表演很棒,酗酒能够毁灭一个人的人生,也能毁灭一个家庭,花房的花被毁时看的真心疼,父亲的无奈和绝望也是映射了两人对酒瘾无法戒除

26分钟前
  • jupiter
  • 还行

以社畜群体的职场压抑困境为引,以普通人精神沉沦、难以翻身,投降妥协为果,展现残酷的生活真相,现实中软弱,过度自我麻醉最终的生命走向是失去意义、加速毁灭。有多少人生等不到仰望星空,跨越不了迂回曲折,已然泥足深陷无法自拔。在展现这种挣扎的过程中,杰克•莱蒙奉献了精湛的演技,每次被生活侮辱毒打的时候他的痛苦和煎熬是如此深刻。。。

31分钟前
  • 漩涡之外
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酒瘾之痛,电影技艺出彩,但由于在提供一个疯狂的浸入的过程中未能真正同时“站在角色旁边”,最终陷入一种纯男权视角的审视,为什么总是杰克·莱蒙先全身而退?

32分钟前
  • TWY
  • 还行

那些年,我们看杰克莱蒙追女孩,生女孩,毁女孩。现实感逼仄令人浑然发抖,杯盏之间,爱情被酒精燃尽。那一年JACK没有拿影帝,可惜了。

34分钟前
  • shininglove
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噢,杰克莱蒙伟大的表演啊,让人心碎~

38分钟前
  • zzy花岗岩
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一段表演告诉你,奥斯卡欠杰克·莱蒙多少个小金人!(笑) 60年代初的男性情节剧,中产阶级的悲哀在片中被无情的揭露。[相见时难别亦难]作为一部非“好莱坞式大团圆”的电影,居然还能在当年(1962年)不错的票房战绩(Top 15),全靠影片戏剧的张力和两位主演优秀的表演。杰克·莱蒙和丽·莱米克凭借“醉鬼”级别的表演双双提名金球奖和金像奖,可惜败给了大势所趋的格利高里·派克和安妮·班克罗夫特。

40分钟前
  • MovieManic
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莱蒙表演真精彩,特别是雨夜花房醉酒那段。一个破碎的我,怎么拯救一个破碎的你,让我们一起醉死吧。PS:隔了一天想起来,改成五星。

43分钟前
  • 小艺
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在岳父家打烂花盆找酒那一场非常有冲击力,那一刻真的想杀掉他,想起了我爸。“我希望这个世界看起来比实际上好。”只要我们一起喝酒,就还是同伴。

46分钟前
  • Persona
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好严肃的主题。。嗯,杰克·莱蒙演的好好。。。

48分钟前
  • 九尾黑猫
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杰克莱蒙演技爆发之作!这个角色完全跳脱出了他以往的喜剧范畴,复杂的心理情绪表现,深刻、纠结又痛苦,角色塑造堪称伟大。此片在酒精与家庭关系的探讨方面,比《失去的周末》走的又更远了些。酒精真的可以毁掉一个家庭,甚至毁掉一个人的整个一生。62年的五位男主角提名已阅四作,如今看来,单论表演,当年获奖的派克绝对不是最好的那一个。

50分钟前
  • 伊菲吉妮娅
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开头会以为一脸喜相的莱蒙演不来这样忧愁悲催的角色 可看完觉得一点毛病也跳不出 故事编排表演无一不好

52分钟前
  • 绿山林的Vian
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从天堂到地狱.Lee Remick让人惊喜

57分钟前
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《美国凡人》里提到,刚上映时观众对这部电影的期待是喜剧,结果看了没多久就发现这部不仅是正剧,还是部相当苦涩与忧伤的正剧。总之想了解喜剧之外的杰克莱蒙,首选这部。另外,如果你1/做过或做的是PR;2/曾经有过或正好有酒瘾,看下来大概多少都会觉得扎心

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  • Virgil
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