猎魔人 第二季

第08集

主演:亨利·卡维尔,弗蕾娅·艾伦,安亚·查洛特拉,克里斯托弗·海维尤,亚森·阿图,保罗·布林,金·波德尼亚,巴兹尔·伊登贝茨,凯西·克莱尔,利兹·凯尔,西蒙·卡洛,格拉汉姆·麦克泰维什,阿卓艾·安多,凯文·道尔,克里斯·弗尔顿

类型:美剧地区:美国 / 波兰语言:英语年份:2021

 红牛

缺集或无法播,更换其他线路.

 剧照

猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.1猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.2猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.3猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.4猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.5猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.6猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.13猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.14猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.15猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.16猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.17猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.18猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.19猎魔人 第二季 剧照 NO.20

 长篇影评

 1 ) 搬运自reddit

Fuck it. I decided to compile a list of every change between Season 2 and Blood of Elves

Heavy spoilers for the books and Season 2!

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This is not all-encompassing. I'll forget some changes--Heaven knows the writers made enough changes. I'll also preface this by saying: This isn't a commentary on the quality of the season itself. It is simply a collection of the differences between the novel and the show.

**Characters**

* Voleth Meir is not in the books. Completely new character.

* Geralt wouldn't use Ciri as bait in the books. Nor did he.

* Ciri is never possessed by a witch.

* Yennefer does not lose her magic in the books.

* Yennefer never considers sacrificing Ciri for power. Nor does the opportunity ever arise.

* Yennefer is not captured by Niilfgard in the books.

* Instead, she is blinded following Sodden after taking a fireball to the face from Fringilla. She then spends lots of time in recovery, then--on Dijkstra's orders--tails and saves Dandelion from Rience.

* No one ever thinks she's dead in the books either (Geralt worries that she died after Sodden, if I recall, but finds out rather quickly she's still out there after talking to Triss at the Sodden memorial)

* Later in the series (Post Time of Contempt/Late Season 3 or early Season 4 by comparison), people suspect Yennefer of being a Nilfgaardian spy. But at no point does anyone suspect her of being a spy following Sodden.

* The Stregobor stuff isn't a thing in the books. He's there, but plays no important role.

* Vessemir wouldn't try to use Ciri's blood to create more witchers in the books. Nor would he ever allow Ciri to undergo the Trial. Nor would he let Eskel bring a bunch of hookers to Kaer Morhen

* In the books, Dandelion is actively working with Djikstra and the Redanian Secret Service. ~~This is removed in the show~~ It is implied that Djikstra is funding Dandelion's sandpiper activities, though Dandelion doesn't seem to be aware of who he is working with. This is speculative on my part though.

* Also in the books, Dandelion is not nearly as comedic as he was in Season 2. He is funny, but they seemed to lean into that aspect of him for Season 2.

* This is more my interpretation, but in the books, Dandelion is far wittier than he is in the show. He certainly doesn't come across as the type to talk to rats in the book.

* Djikstra is not a rambling drunk in the books (although I didn't find that to be a bad change. It was pretty interesting IMO).

* I don't believe Istredd even appears in Blood of Elves

* Francesa Findabar is *not* with the Scoia'tael in the books. By this, I mean she's not in the field with them, acting as their leader.

* She is a member of the Brotherhood of Sorcerers, though she does harbor sympathies for their cause and occasionally meets with Scoia'tel leaders (Filavandrel, as an example). This relationship becomes relevant when she aids Niilfgaard during the Coup at Thanned

* Fringilla Vigo does not become de facto leader of Cintra in the books. Instead, she fucks off to Niilfgard

* Cahir is not captured by the Brotherhood following Sodden in the books. I don't even recall if he was at Sodden. As far as I recall, he traveled back to Niilfgard following the Fall of Cintra, and was imprisoned for failing to capture Ciri. We don't see him again for another two books after Sodden.

* His execution plot-point never happened in the books.

* Book Cahir is also not nearly as mustache-twirly-evil-villain as he is in the show. Cahir fans will know what I mean.

* Tissaia is hardly a significant character in the books.

* Rience is not a magical bounty hunter in the books. He's an almost fanatical follower of Vilgefortz in the books.

* Rience is scarred in the show and books, but in the books, it's because Yennefer uses her magic to wound him as he's interrogating Dandelion.

* Lydia Van Bredevoort does not develop her scars from sniffing a vial of elder blood in the books. Instead, her scars are a result of magical experimentation on Vilgefortz' orders, and her wounds are hidden with an illusion.

* Eskel is not turned into a Leshen and then killed (as far as we know. He's not in the books for long.)

* Vilgefortz and Tissaia are not a romantic thing, as far as I could tell. Nor are they really even partners. Vilgefortz is also the genuine champion of Sodden in the books. He does this to gain more authority in the Brotherhood.

* Vilgy is also way stronger and smarter in the books then how he is depicted in the show. Also, Vilgy never says his classic line. This is a cardinal sin, imo.

* Nenekke is an old and religious lady. She doesn't go around dropping f-bombs in the books.

* Emhyr kept the fact that Ciri was his daughter a big secret in the books. Understandable, given his plans for her (**cough** Imperial Incest **cough**)

* Jarre in the books is a bit of a geek, who is very clearly awkward around girls, and has a crush on Ciri. But he's also smart, and good-intentioned. The show reduces him to a dick joke.

**Plot Points**

* Except for Ciri's training, there is not a single fight at Kaer Morhen. Never. There is no Leshen, nor is there the centipede thing with the claws. There is no possession.

* There are only four witchers at Kaer Morhen (Vessemir, Eskel, Lambert, and Coen)

* At Kaer Morhen, Ciri trains and exercises. Eventually, Triss arrives (on Geralt's request) and instructs Ciri on the basics of magic, as well as the Elder language.

* The plot point with Ciri's blood being able to make more witchers is not in the books.

* Vesemir never collects her blood either. The thought of making more witchers is only ever entertained in the context of Ciri being raised as a girl vs. being raised as a witcher. But the mutagenic process itself/Trial of Grasses is never brought up.

* In the book, Triss travels with Ciri and Geralt to the Temple. In the show, she doesn't. We don't see her get sick.

* On the path to the Temple is when they run into Yarpen Zigrin again. This doesn't happen in the show. As a result, Ciri doesn't visit Shaerrawedd, and there is no fight with the Scoia'tael.

* There is no fight at Melitele's Temple in the books. Never.

* Yennefer does not travel to the Temple to kidnap Ciri and sacrifice her in the books.

* In the books, Ciri and Yennefer stay at the temple for a while. Ciri learns more magic.

* Yennefer is invited to the temple by Geralt after Geralt has already left. See the 'Dear Friend,' bullet point further down.

* There is no reunion between Geralt and Yennefer in Blood of Elves. They reunite outside Gors Velen in the next book.

* In the books, Rience does not find Ciri at the Temple. Instead, Geralt leaves Ciri in Nenekke's care to find Rience at Oxenfurt.

* There is no Shani in the show. >:(

* Phillipa does not help Geralt find Rience, nor does she help Rience escape: as she does in the books.

* In fact, Rience doesn't meet Ciri till the Time of Contempt, which is the next book following Blood of Elves.

* Dandelion doesn't sing at a tavern in Oxenfurt. He sings at Bleobheris, a sacred tree.

* His Sandpiper plot is not a thing in the books.

* Dandelion is not arrested in the books.

* The elf and Cintra plot is not in the books.

* There is a non-human uprising in the North in the books, led by the Scoia'tael, but they are not given Cintra as a place of refuge by the Niilfgardians. Instead, Niilfgard is suspected of funding and arming them behind the scenes to stoke instability in the North.

* Francesca never gets pregnant. Nor does Emhyr commit infanticide against an elven baby in the books.

* The notion that a pure-blooded elf hasn't been born in decades is also a Netflix invention. Elves have a much smaller window of time to get pregnant, but it still happens in the books. Avallach and Geralt talk about this in Tower of Swallow.

* The magical politics is a thing in the books, but is very different from the magical politics in the show. Stregobor does not interrogate or harm Yennefer, and neither do Tissaia/Vilgy use that as an excuse to seize Council seats.

* Instead, the magical politics in the book are concerned with the growing distrust between the Kings and their magical advisors

* The meeting of the Kings at the end of Season 2 is the meeting of the Kings in BoE that puts the Mages on edge, and is used to justify the Conclave in Time of Contempt. However, Tissaia is at the King's meeting in the show, which is not the case in the book. No mages were invited to the meeting in the books.

* When the Kings of the North meet, they do conclude it best to kill Ciri--so as to prevent her falling into Emhyr's hands (they don't want him to have a legitimate claim to the Cintran throne). However, the show cut the King's talk of war with Niilfgaard.

* In the books, they believe a quick strike across the Yaruga could recapture Cintra, and deal a blow to the South. This conversation paves the way for the Second Great War, but does not happen in the show.

* The show also leaves out the politics regarding Cintra's throne. Cordhingrer is visited by Geralt in the books, and they develop a plot to--essentially-- smear Calanthe's name and ruin her claim to the Cintrant throne, thus making Ciri's claim to the throne illegitimate. Thus, protecting her from the kings who want her dead for her political power.

* Again, the Voleth Meir plot is not in the books at all. Instead, Blood of Elves focuses on Ciri's training and planting the seeds for future conflicts.

* I.e. the Second Great War, the Coup of Thanned, Character's motivations to capture Ciri, etc.

* The Monoliths are not a thing in the books.

* The 'Dear Friend,' bit is in reference to letters exchanged by Yennefer and Geralt while Geralt is in Oxenfurt hunting for Rience. Geralt asks Yennefer to travel to the temple to train Ciri. Again, Geralt and Yen don't actually meet though.

* In the books, Niilfgardians are depicted as something more akin to the Romans or English (Highly centralized government with progressive and aristocratic traditions and legal codes). In the books, they are not religious zealots. Though they are also not necessarily 'good' either.

* Yennefer and Cahir never have a team-up in the books.

* Tissaia does not recommend that Ciri be captured, nor does she suggest that anyone protecting her be captured as well. In fact, Tissaia's role in the show is dramatically overblown.

* Ciri is not with Geralt when he meets Nivellen.

* Istredd does not meet with Cordringer and Fenn in the books. Geralt does meet them to find information about Rience and Ciri.

It's not an exaggeration to say that the *majority* of this season is different from the books. And not just sort of different, but drastically different. Hell, the last four or five episodes are fictitious (relative to the book canon (yes I know it's all fiction, please stop reminding me)) in nearly every way. At this point, I'm not certain where the story will go. For example, how will the Coup play out on Thanedd if Ciri won't be able to attend it? And if Ciri isn't at Aretuza for the Coup, then how will she be warped to the desert? And if she isn't separated from Geralt and Yennefer, then how will she meet up with the Rats?

Obviously, they can still work these plots in, or at least, work in the *effects* of these plots, but the story will take a drastically different turn than the one the book tells.

Note that this isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, so long as it's done well. But there has to come a point when the adaptation is so drastically different from the source material, that I start to wonder whether it's truly an adaptation, or if it's a reimagining.

 2 ) 一堆吐槽(严重剧透)

前面都还行,最后看的我很痛苦,倒不是因为猎魔人被噶了一大半,而是因为希里这么重要的角色一点成长都没有,希里跟着猎魔人那么幸苦的训练,她跟杰洛特说她想对过去冷漠的时候我真以为她成长了,但是最后的表现还是那个被困在过去的软弱要抱抱的公主,外面猎魔人死的死伤的伤最后一起过来呼唤希里,前面杰洛特千呼百唤没啥用就算了,都到这份上了结果她转头对她从来没见过的爹妈来一句我哪也不去我只要你们简直是把一路上跟杰洛特和其他猎魔人陪伴的感情揉一块扔到地上踩两脚还要吐口唾沫,算是编剧强行要用这个机会来让叶奈法表现出转变来救场,叶奈法的转变是表现出来了,那希里的呢?顺带一提编剧很用心的把希里快乐跳舞和猎魔人被虐杀的画面交替在一块,跟最后一集要表现的“家人”的主题实在是撕裂。还有维瑟米尔,一个猎魔人死掉他都心疼死了,现在在他面前惨死那么多个我都不知道他要怎么撑过去,然而他还是作为编剧的工具人,内心的情感与挣扎、希望与绝望被简单带过了。至于亚斯卡尔,他这个吊儿郎当一点忙都帮不上的形象可能已经被编剧用502胶水粘在他身上再拍一百季也甩不掉了。

我真心希望有人能来告诉我我的理解是错的,片面的,不然看了这个剧我得好久心情都不会好了。

 3 ) 原著党和游戏党出身.被编剧魔改剧情气到了,怒打1星.

如题

原著党游戏党叶党帝国党,此刻心情

先说选角.椰奶在原著党和游戏党心目中是这样的,丁香和醋栗.

椰奶高冷美艳,毒舌,傲娇,原著党和游戏党心目中应该是伊娃格林那样的.

伊娃格林太贵请不起,也请不动...这个情况我们这些原著党和游戏党能理解.但是你好歹弄个差不多点的吧??????现在那椰奶那是啥啊?哪里美艳哪里毒舌哪里傲娇了啊??????愤怒啊我去.叶党震怒

再说剧集的服化道问题.

这是游戏里的帝国军

帝国近卫

帝国骑兵

帝国铁卫

帝国的装甲风格很好认吧?

翼盔,黑白金三色,对吧?

结果编剧和导演给我们看这个....

兽人步兵师?

这都是啥啊?兽人步兵师啊????

说到上面这张图,我又想吐槽下卡西尔.

原著里卡西尔是个相当浪漫主义又充满勇气的骑士,为了完成大帝的命令,满世界去找希里.从一开始的对立直到最后爱上了希里,相当勇敢,相当骑士范一男人,竟然给我魔改成现在这样了????

这脑残谁啊?

帝国翼盔骑士这样的好不?

然后还有我们恩希尔大帝

瞅瞅大帝那个发型,瞅瞅大帝那个眼神,瞅瞅大帝那个气场...........剧集里那个小白脸到底谁啊??????就是那个小白脸卧薪尝胆几十年,然后历尽磨难回到帝国击败篡位者然后领导帝国重归荣光盛极一时成为整个大陆上最强大的军事帝国的???????

我怒摔

最后,造型方面,我再吐槽下最后出场的狂猎.

游戏里狂猎是这样的.

多吓人多震撼啊,结果你最后给我来个八爪鱼盖头上的脑残沙雕??????良心呢良心呢良心被狗吃了么???????

这啥啊八爪鱼扣脑袋上了么???

最后,至于剧情我都懒得吐槽了.....有好奇的同学自己看那个搬运reddit的影评吧........真真全球同愤 ............

整个第二季,除了第一集一部分和原著相关,以后的剧情全部都是编剧魔改出来的........我了个大去........那满屏幕的cheap同人文的酸臭........我了个大去.

顺便说下对reddit那哥们儿的总结的回应:

老哥你说的太对了!

老爷子和老奶奶被改的近乎死不瞑目了都......那TM都是啥??? 叶奈法那种宠女儿狂魔竟然被改成这样了........过分. 还有艾斯卡尔被改成这样也是不能接受的. 同问仙尼德岛政变还要怎么编? 最后,恩希尔大帝没有打算娶希里!你们这些北方佬够了!不要再造谣了!

总言之,叶党愤慨,帝国党愤慨,气愤,怒打一星.

 4 ) 椰奶和特莉丝换成她们俩来演怎么样

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 5 ) 我们原著党和游戏党固然唠叨,但某些人请收起你的无知

前言

起笔于 02:20 23/12/2021 爱丁堡

701小时玩家

想了很久,我决定还是写一下我对于猎魔人第二季看完后的看法。作为上一篇观后感还是在小学为了应付老师而写的刻板理科生。基于我对于猎魔人游戏和原著的热爱,我决定尽我所能写下我对于这部剧的看法。为了让大家能够抓住重点,我会尽量用写程序报告的写法来罗列重点。 我先说下我和猎魔人的缘分,我是游玩了巫师3以后才对原著有了巨大的爱好然后购置了猎魔人系列的小说,基于我对于原著语言波兰语的有限了解,我有幸阅读了由重庆出版社翻译出版的中文版本。所以我接下来对于剧情的评价将基于我从汉语译本内容的理解。

作为一名资深的叶奈法党,当她在白果园从众多尼弗迦德士兵中走向杰洛特的时候。我就被她的美貌所深深的吸引。后来更是在原著中被她和杰洛特复杂的羁绊而深深的着迷。无论是叶奈法在关于希瑞在教育问题上因为杰洛特“亲爱的朋友”起头而在信件中充满怨念的拌嘴,还是杰洛特在迷雾中拜访索登山烈士墓那端内心独白的震撼。都能充分理解为什么在巫师3中最后的愿望叶奈法听到杰洛特告白时那含情脉脉眼神亦或看到最后杰洛特和叶奈法在陶森特拥有自己白乌鸦庄园时那种童话成真的感觉--------------那正是叶奈法在阿瑞图扎时向杰洛特喃喃的那最真诚的愿望(剧透了,但没完全剧透)

本着对于叶奈法的喜爱,我会优先以叶奈法剧情方面来带入我对于剧情的部分想法。


关于剧情和原著上面的差别

在这里我推荐一个经过叶奈法吧大神翻译过的波兰广播剧中关于叶奈法和杰洛特的剧情,接下来我都会把片段的时间贴出来来给大家感受原著的剧情。

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我会贴出关于他们剧情对应广播剧中的部分,要想了解杰洛特和叶奈法,其实仅仅用这个视频,几乎能够涵盖小说大部分他们之间的感情戏。在这里我仅仅贴出第二季和小说中重叠的时间线,在杰洛特和叶奈法通信后的部分要在后面几季体现,最后一部分是 叶 党 狂 喜 的同人部分!!

前面是最后的愿望和可能的极限,第一部剧破坏的不算严重,这里我就不多赘述了。


冰之碎片(11:55):

- 这段算是叶奈法和杰洛特一起时秀恩爱的部分

- 也是小说中伊斯崔德认识杰洛特的章节

比那更多(25:12):

- 五月节杰洛特约的时候遇到了正在约的叶奈法

- 这也是叶奈法告诉杰洛特要寻找比迪精更多的东西来维系他们的感情

- 嗯是的和电视剧相反

第十四个名字(35:20):

- 杰洛特在索登山上看着烈士墓时的内心独白

- 杰洛特开始一个一个读着阵亡者以及对其他阵亡者背景的补充 37:31

- 当杰洛特不敢读最后一个因为他相信那是叶奈法以及高潮部分 38:46

杰洛特和叶奈法在信件中讨论关于希瑞的教育(47:06):

- 前面还有一个杰洛特和小屁孩的对话,非常有趣地展现了杰洛特的性格2333333

- 希瑞寄给杰洛特的信 48:53,

- 年轻时候萌萌的希瑞哈哈哈,剧里面看不到

- 叶奈法送来的信 54:37

- 毒舌和傲娇尽显无疑wwwww


可以说我对于这部电视剧最复杂的态度就是对于叶奈法的刻画,因为除了它其他的剧情我都能建立足够的心态去接受,但我这里尽量用不带主观态度去说下第二季对于叶奈法内容的编纂,尽量不去涉及抽象评价这种玩意。

伊斯崔德

首先,和伊斯崔德相关的剧情其实在小说中仅限在冰之碎片里面。在电视剧中我可以理解他推动了部分剧情以及背景的补充。我觉得在小说中是着重于对叶奈法和杰洛特感情线的补充,为了理解日后杰洛特和叶奈法之间那奇妙命运的铺垫。但是在电视剧中,仿佛制作人要给予他更多的工具人角色,他所研究的巨石阵在原著小说不存在,但我觉得是个对于希瑞能力视觉效果更好的补充,所以可以理解。电视剧中冰之碎片根本不存在,所以我就勉强接受了这两人认识的奇妙场合,毕竟杰洛特就是不相信命运却充满了命运相遇的天选之子,所以真巧对杰洛特来说就是家常便饭哈哈哈。

以叶奈法与希瑞导入我看希瑞剧情的态度

希瑞与叶奈法的剧情因为恶魔剧情的插入被分裂的破碎淋漓。我的想法可能觉得剧组为了吸引观众的注意加入了很多其他剧情的设定。这个恶魔的设定我看着竟然如此眼熟,想必可能和前段时间刷了康斯坦丁,驱魔人有关吧。本人灵魂被关在某个领域;仇恨会使恶魔力量强大;当众多驱魔人用爱感化的时候,我觉得就差一个十字架和“上帝爱你”了。题外话,感觉恶魔本身设定感觉和巫师3中恶灵缠身任务中的希姆也有那么点相似。

其实杰洛特邀请叶奈法之前已经请特莉丝来帮希瑞,原因也是某些和叶奈法斗气的原因所以不请叶奈法,后来特莉丝表示自己不行直接让叶奈法来看看。这种尴尬的场面配上后来杰洛特对于叶奈法错误的称呼“亲爱的朋友”。导致叶奈法那种怒气已经跃然纸上,在小说中这段也是对于杰洛特和叶奈法感情线的补充。

由于恶魔剧情的加入,所以第二季并没有对于叶奈法教导希瑞的大部分描写。但是为了推进叶奈法受到恶魔蛊惑那部分,零零碎碎有了些对于希瑞的教导,因为叶奈法在电视剧中失去了魔力。在小说中希瑞学习法术比电视剧中要难很多,这个过程和第一季中叶奈法学习法术过程差不多,而且其实叶奈法教导希瑞其实也和蒂莎娅教导叶奈法过程差不多,不乏严厉的教导以及温柔的一面。于电视剧中坚韧的希瑞,我觉得这更像小说后期的希瑞,小说早期的希瑞异常淘气可爱,屡次因为法术太难表示摸了摸了不学了,游戏里也有所体现,就是阿瓦拉克教导希瑞的时候希瑞觉得好难就不想学然后和杰洛特打雪球摸鱼(大雾)。叶奈法有时毒嘴有时很温柔。而那句对于杰洛特的评价,也是在叶奈法和希瑞关系非常亲密的时候。叶奈法非常不情愿但又娓娓道来地告诉了希瑞,体现了自己对于和杰洛特之间羁绊的复杂的态度。而在电视剧里感觉就是为了原封不动的念小说这部分台词。

既然之后有叶奈法教希瑞的戏份,希望第三季能够好好再发展下她俩之间的母女情感发展www

杰洛特与叶奈法

我在小说中非常喜欢的部分,为了不亵渎我最爱的部分,我仅仅写简短的不完整的感想来表达我对于第二季的态度,但这不代表我的完整的观点。

其实小说中最主要的是,前面的短篇之间时间间隔非常大。比如在和三寒鸦告别后。叶奈法和杰洛特重归于好以后,两人一起去了很多地方。以我的理解,他们的这段情感线止于冰之碎片之后,两人生活方式差距之大导致了很多问题,而又因为伊崔斯德为爆发点。之后到某年五月节两人再次相遇,并且叶奈法与杰洛特在短暂的欢愉后向杰洛特提出了那个愿望,那个能更紧密联系他们命运的存在。再之后其实两人见面就在阿拉图扎了那也应该是电视剧线里第三季了。

被替代的内容中,杰洛特在第十四个名字中的剧情在电视剧中被嫁接给了蒂瑞莎对于叶奈法的寻找,展现了蒂莎娅对于叶奈法的爱护。可以说编剧成功让小说的其他角色有了更多的戏份。

至于小说和电视剧两人相处剧情的区别,我之前给的广播剧已经很能体现它们的区别。我就不多说了。

总的来说,电视剧让我们更加容易理解叶奈法的性格,因为多了对叶奈法成长过程的讲述。而在小说中只是最后的愿望中杰洛特注视着叶奈法的眼神中一带而过叶奈法的过去。而对于两人的感情也是依靠数篇短片小说有了逐渐立体的了解。

节奏的把控以及一些新剧情

猎魔人中出现了很多新的剧情,但是很容易看得出编剧借鉴了奈飞其他影视作品的理念。但是过程,更像是在流水线上生产的汽车上加上一些运动套件或者上个品牌音箱的做法。流行的剧情设计加上一些猎魔人世界观的设计,比如我之前谈及希瑞剧情时谈到对于恶魔剧情的看法。

从积极的来说,小说本身的节奏和电视剧的节奏是不一样的。运用小说的节奏可能会让电视剧本身失去吸引力。猎魔人小说中有大量对于杰洛特自己内心想法的写照,配合叶奈法本身会读心的技术,通常会给剧情带来很多意外的幽默。而之后希瑞等也会有心理描写。这推进了剧情的发展并且让阅读变得更加有趣。颇为玩味的是,小说很少涉及叶奈法心理的描写,这样就更加让我们有一种基于杰洛特本身去揣测叶奈法想法的感觉,从而让故事更有一种参与感?至少对我来说。

而这些在电视剧中是很难展现的,这很难依靠动作来展现,用画外音显得非常突兀。所以我也可以理解编剧删除了某些故事情节,就拿第十四个名字和冰之碎片,这两篇对于杰洛特的心声内容的编写非常之长。在电视剧的确有点难体现。其实在巫师3游戏里,很多依靠的是杰洛特的自言自语,所以玩家也能感受到很多时候白狼尖锐的吐槽。

以我的愚见,编剧是像融合奈飞元素和猎魔人小说的风格。将猎魔人的故事至少是在奈飞电视剧上变得更加引人入胜。

战斗

巫师系列游戏可以说,对于小说中战斗元素方面有了继承和发展。更不用说对于原来小说情节的尊重以及大胆做出的革新。而在电视剧中,很多战斗元素也让我这个游戏党非常欣喜。包括阿尔德击落龙和大战吸血鬼女部分还是非常喜欢的。大战吸血鬼女让我有种重温难忘之夜的感觉

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特别是嗑了黑血那段还是很棒的,虽然貌似吸血妖女最后没有吸黑血?不过火焰剑这个还是第一次见。

结语 tucao

让我熬夜写下这篇漏洞百出文章的是某位五星评论对原著党和游戏党隔空输出的评论员,打着“高抬贵手”的说法却充满了对原著党和游戏党的偏见和轻蔑。虽然我承认评论区充满了大家片片断断的差评或者是吐槽,但是您对于猎魔人系列小说那些固有印象和也就仅仅限于搜索百科以后佯装自己深入了解小说而在评论区的大放厥词让我感受到了仿佛评论区已经变成了大家宣泄情绪的平台。那么我就发出这篇我作为游戏和原著党对于剧情的评价和对比。我希望我对于在叶奈法方面剧情的了解让您知道,原著党在看到电视剧后那种复杂的心路历程。在您的心中,叶奈法仅仅是“力量 美貌 享乐”恐怕无法解释为什么后来她在x(不想剧透)的刑具上那种坚毅而且仍然不乏对那些人给予言语上的讽刺,他们想让叶奈法痛苦来暴露希瑞位置但是她却只想念着杰洛特导致杰洛特被迫躺枪。

您这种假装高贵中立,拉一派打一派,说什么“游戏党现在宽容多了,希望小说党可以学习”,仿佛自己有限的认知可以成为判断谁好谁坏。在您的想法中,貌似国人成为了充满偏见的存在,殊不知海外犀利的吐槽人员配角的也有很多,原著党无论国内国外都是雷池的存在。多看看烂番茄等等评价再大放厥词会好很多,而不是意识流在评论。

当然我想表达一下我的看法,我本质上还是对这部猎魔人感官不错,特别是大超本身不错的演技,而他也是很早就拜读过猎魔人这部小说,可以说是非常入神了,这也侧面说明某些人单纯把猎魔人变成冷门小说并把功劳归于cdpr和奈飞的无知言论。

等我想再到更多再加吧,第一次写观后感,熬夜有点困了,谢谢ww

23/12/2021 06:08

 6 ) 只略谈对第一集《真爱如血》的观感

在我看来,《猎魔人》是一部堪与《权游》媲美的魔幻剧集,同样展现了一个平行于中古欧陆的架空世界观,只是内容和影调上更偏重阴暗的哥特风。第二季第一集讲述的是关于吸血女妖的故事,剧名小标题:“True Blood”(真爱如血)。灵感来源于博蒙夫人的童话作品《美女与野兽》。

薇瑞娜外表看起来是个苍白而柔弱的女孩,当然并不是每个人都能亲眼目睹她的这张“清秀”面孔。当攻击猎物的时候,她会变身为面目狰狞、满嘴獠牙的妖怪!她栖身在废弃的古堡里,与被魔法诅咒变成野兽的古堡主人相爱相杀,过着黑暗嗜血的日子。直到女主希瑞带着她的“猎魔人”骑士来访。

如果一个人或者某个情景令你心动,相信那一定是你从中看到了自己——一个同样独特的灵魂,和自己太过相似,仿佛内心投射出的镜像——薇瑞娜暗中打量着公主,抑制不住好奇与狂喜。她早已经厌倦了杀戮,但无法克制吸血的本能;她羡慕人世间的温暖,却不得不与黑夜为伍!

于是在邂逅宿命的寒夜,她又一次变回那个柔弱无助的女孩,“潜入”到公主的睡梦中。她用手指蘸了一下希瑞的眼泪,放到自己的唇边,她想体验情感融在指端咸涩的味道,那是她一直渴望拥有而注定无法拥有的东西!她用一种奇特如响尾蛇般颤动的语言和她交流,还送上好看的裙子作为礼物。两个纤弱的女孩(其中一个至少形体上是)在古堡摇曳的烛影中交谈——这一幕为何竟会如此打动我?也许和薇瑞娜遇见希瑞一样,我也从中听到了自己内心深处如融雪一般孤独的声音…

“怪物”实际是根本不存在的,它不过是人们为了排除异己而生造出来的词汇。就像剧中面对公主“你是怪物吗?”的发问,薇瑞娜怅然回答道:“你也与众不同,难道你也是怪物吗?”“怪物害人,而人害一切!”作为一个猎杀者,她虽生性凶残,却又其心可悯。她代表了那些被排斥在主流社会之外的边缘化群体,以及所有不被理解的心声,想寻求一种归属感,却只能被“人类的世界”拒之门外,内心永远被孤独和绝望包围。

故事的结尾耐人寻味:害人的怪物得到了应有的下场——猎魔骑士斩下了薇瑞娜的头。她的头颅滚落在雪中没了声息,眼中的光亮也在暗夜中渐渐熄灭。而她的血——以死亡之吻献上的真爱之血——喷溅在古堡主人的身上,诅咒解除了!公主和她的骑士重新踏上征途,薇瑞娜最后留下的一句话:有一天你(希瑞)也会和我一样。

没有感情的“怪物”在最后时刻奉献了真爱,而得到真爱的人却无法让它哪怕在手中多停留一秒。或许爱终究是可遇而不可求的东西,得到的同时也意味着失去,正如Linkin Park在《One More Light》中的唱词——

“There are things that we can have but can't keep”…

 短评

E1:猪八戒和吸血鬼女妖的绝配爱情故事。E2:论我的小伙伴变成黑山老妖,然后我如何亲手宰了他。E3:这里是湖南卫视,欢迎大家收看Ciri公主的男生女生向前冲E4:杰洛特:闺女,为啥怪物追你。Ciri:因为我有急支糖浆E5:Ciri:我想当猎魔人。杰洛特:不准!E6:杰洛特:闺女,这是我女朋友。E7:Ciri:呜呜呜,干爹你女朋友想卖我。E8:杰洛特:论如何把养的亲闺女养成最终boss个人攻略。8/10,第二季不再有第一季混乱时间线,而且敌我双方都刻画的栩栩如生,精灵族以及人类各方势力心怀鬼胎。说下缺点吧:第二季海报完全是诈骗,Ciri根本没成为猎魔人。叶奈法选角我还是吐槽,压根镇不住场子,叶奈法选角应该是伊娃格林或莫妮卡格鲁奇,最后一集还是靠嘴炮感化,毫无新意的套路。

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